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		<title>Comment on Is Software Different than other Technologies?  Yes and No by Shawn H Corey</title>
		<link>http://www.patents4software.com/2013/02/is-software-different-than-other-technologies-yes-and-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2461</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn H Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All software is algorithms. This has been proven for over 50 years. Patent law states that algorithms cannot be patented. Therefore, all software patents are illegal. Any judge who even lets a software patent into court is breaking the law and should be prosecuted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All software is algorithms. This has been proven for over 50 years. Patent law states that algorithms cannot be patented. Therefore, all software patents are illegal. Any judge who even lets a software patent into court is breaking the law and should be prosecuted.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Software Different than other Technologies?  Yes and No by Tim Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.patents4software.com/2013/02/is-software-different-than-other-technologies-yes-and-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2459</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I wanted to note that your argument here is very similar to the point Christina Mulligan and I made in our paper, which you covered last year:

http://www.patents4software.com/2012/03/are-software-patents-really-impossible-to-index-or-is-no-one-trying/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I wanted to note that your argument here is very similar to the point Christina Mulligan and I made in our paper, which you covered last year:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.patents4software.com/2012/03/are-software-patents-really-impossible-to-index-or-is-no-one-trying/" rel="nofollow">http://www.patents4software.com/2012/03/are-software-patents-really-impossible-to-index-or-is-no-one-trying/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Software Different than other Technologies?  Yes and No by Tim Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.patents4software.com/2013/02/is-software-different-than-other-technologies-yes-and-no/comment-page-1/#comment-2458</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

This is a fantastic post, and I think it perfectly captures why many software developers (including me) have passionate views on the subject. The analogy we often draw is toward writing a novel: if the features of novels (plot twists, narrative structures, whatever) were eligible for patent protection, there&#039;d be vehement objections from novelists. They would argue, correctly, that it&#039;s outrageous to expect someone to conduct a patent search before sitting down to write a novel.

Exactly the same point applies to software developers. We think we ought to have the freedom to create and distribute original software without asking anyone&#039;s permission. Software patents, in principle at least, demand that we conduct a patent search every time we start a new software project. And that feels like--and is--a serious limitation on our freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>This is a fantastic post, and I think it perfectly captures why many software developers (including me) have passionate views on the subject. The analogy we often draw is toward writing a novel: if the features of novels (plot twists, narrative structures, whatever) were eligible for patent protection, there&#8217;d be vehement objections from novelists. They would argue, correctly, that it&#8217;s outrageous to expect someone to conduct a patent search before sitting down to write a novel.</p>
<p>Exactly the same point applies to software developers. We think we ought to have the freedom to create and distribute original software without asking anyone&#8217;s permission. Software patents, in principle at least, demand that we conduct a patent search every time we start a new software project. And that feels like&#8211;and is&#8211;a serious limitation on our freedom.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What, if anything, does Mayo v. Prometheus mean for Software Patents? by Janal Kalis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janal Kalis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A recent district court invalidated software claims to an expert system using the Prometheus decision.  The court held that a computer providing treatment options based upon software instructions and data was no different from what a doctor does.  It will be interesting to see what the CAFC does with this, if the case is appealed.  More information about the case can be found here:

 http://holmansbiotechipblog.blogspot.com/2012/04/computer-implemented-method-for-guiding.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A recent district court invalidated software claims to an expert system using the Prometheus decision.  The court held that a computer providing treatment options based upon software instructions and data was no different from what a doctor does.  It will be interesting to see what the CAFC does with this, if the case is appealed.  More information about the case can be found here:</p>
<p> <a href="http://holmansbiotechipblog.blogspot.com/2012/04/computer-implemented-method-for-guiding.html" rel="nofollow">http://holmansbiotechipblog.blogspot.com/2012/04/computer-implemented-method-for-guiding.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Should your next &#8220;software&#8221; application include at least one embodiment that is a machine-specific &#8220;electronic process&#8221;? by Karen G. Hazzah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen G. Hazzah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 23:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;This begs the question, what constitutes “structure” in a software &gt;environment. 

I believe the Fed Cir answered your question in WMS Gaming: 

&quot;In a means-plus-function claim in which the disclosed structure is a computer, or microprocessor, programmed to carry out an algorithm, the disclosed structure is not the general purpose computer, but rather the special purpose computer programmed to perform the disclosed algorithm.&quot;

That is, the Fed Cir held that in a software context, &quot;structure&quot; means &quot;algorithm.&quot; 

Perhaps your real question is a slightly different one: how *much* structure (read: algorithm) is required to comply with 112P6 when the claimed function is implemented in software. Put another way, what level of detail is required in describing the algorithm? 

I don&#039;t think that the Fed Cir has given us an answer to that question yet --  which is surprising, since WMS Gaming is now 12 years old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;This begs the question, what constitutes “structure” in a software &gt;environment. </p>
<p>I believe the Fed Cir answered your question in WMS Gaming: </p>
<p>&#8220;In a means-plus-function claim in which the disclosed structure is a computer, or microprocessor, programmed to carry out an algorithm, the disclosed structure is not the general purpose computer, but rather the special purpose computer programmed to perform the disclosed algorithm.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is, the Fed Cir held that in a software context, &#8220;structure&#8221; means &#8220;algorithm.&#8221; </p>
<p>Perhaps your real question is a slightly different one: how *much* structure (read: algorithm) is required to comply with 112P6 when the claimed function is implemented in software. Put another way, what level of detail is required in describing the algorithm? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that the Fed Cir has given us an answer to that question yet &#8212;  which is surprising, since WMS Gaming is now 12 years old.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Here&#8217;s a Question for Opponents of Software Patents by Bastian Best</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bastian Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, I&#039;m really curious about the answers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, I&#8217;m really curious about the answers!</p>
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		<title>Comment on BPAI Finds Method for Interpreting an MRI Image Statutory Even Though Not Tied to a Machine Implementation by Trent Ostler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent Ostler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting observation. It makes me think back to Chief Justice Roberts at the oral argument of Bilski. 
CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: Mr. Stewart, I thought I understood your argument up until the very last footnote in your brief. And you say the method isn&#039;t patentable because it doesn&#039;t involve a machine. But then you say but it might be if you use a computer to identify the parties that you are setting a price between and if you used a microprocessor to calculate the price. That&#039;s like saying if you use a typewriter to type out the process, then it is patentable. That takes away everything that you spent 53 pages establishing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting observation. It makes me think back to Chief Justice Roberts at the oral argument of Bilski.<br />
CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: Mr. Stewart, I thought I understood your argument up until the very last footnote in your brief. And you say the method isn&#8217;t patentable because it doesn&#8217;t involve a machine. But then you say but it might be if you use a computer to identify the parties that you are setting a price between and if you used a microprocessor to calculate the price. That&#8217;s like saying if you use a typewriter to type out the process, then it is patentable. That takes away everything that you spent 53 pages establishing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bilski vs. Kappos Death Star Vaporizes Ultramercial Patent by Sal Ignab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sal Ignab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have thought that this patent would have been challenged on the basis of obviousness, not start a debate about whether the Internet is a machine. 

It seems to me that if somebody has a really great idea, and it allows others to make money off of it, then the inventors ought to be compensated. 

Bilski may be a Death Star, but in this case, Hulu et al clearly profited from Ultramercial&#039;s idea - and blowing up this patent was exactly the kind of henious act that gets the Jedi on your ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have thought that this patent would have been challenged on the basis of obviousness, not start a debate about whether the Internet is a machine. </p>
<p>It seems to me that if somebody has a really great idea, and it allows others to make money off of it, then the inventors ought to be compensated. </p>
<p>Bilski may be a Death Star, but in this case, Hulu et al clearly profited from Ultramercial&#8217;s idea &#8211; and blowing up this patent was exactly the kind of henious act that gets the Jedi on your ass.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bilski vs. Kappos Death Star Vaporizes Ultramercial Patent by step back</title>
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		<dc:creator>step back</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Thanks for the clarifying notes.

Of course, you cannot possibly be reading this comment because my keyboard is an &quot;abstraction&quot;, its electrical coupling to that there &#039;Internets&#039;  is an &quot;abstraction&quot;, and the electrons that are induced into motion so as to cause my keystrokes to appear symbolically on your computer screen, those too are  &quot;abstractions&quot;.

Thank goodness we live in the 12th Century.
(Anyone who thinks it&#039;s the 21st Century is confused. Their digits must have been alchemically transposed.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Thanks for the clarifying notes.</p>
<p>Of course, you cannot possibly be reading this comment because my keyboard is an &#8220;abstraction&#8221;, its electrical coupling to that there &#8216;Internets&#8217;  is an &#8220;abstraction&#8221;, and the electrons that are induced into motion so as to cause my keystrokes to appear symbolically on your computer screen, those too are  &#8220;abstractions&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thank goodness we live in the 12th Century.<br />
(Anyone who thinks it&#8217;s the 21st Century is confused. Their digits must have been alchemically transposed.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Highlights of the New USPTO Section 101 Guidance by Mark Nowotarski</title>
		<link>http://www.patents4software.com/2010/07/highlights-of-the-new-uspto-section-101-guidance/comment-page-1/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Nowotarski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am concerned that examiners are being given guidance phrased as &quot;factors that weigh in favor&quot;.  In order to be time efficient, examiners and applicants need clear cut tests.  Otherwise office actions - responses will degenerate to &quot;is to&quot;, &quot;is not&quot;, &quot;is to&quot;, &quot;is not&quot;.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am concerned that examiners are being given guidance phrased as &#8220;factors that weigh in favor&#8221;.  In order to be time efficient, examiners and applicants need clear cut tests.  Otherwise office actions &#8211; responses will degenerate to &#8220;is to&#8221;, &#8220;is not&#8221;, &#8220;is to&#8221;, &#8220;is not&#8221;&#8230;..</p>
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